Asus and MSI head to head
First INQpressions EeePC 1000 versus Wind
Product: Asus EeePC 1000 and MSI
Wind
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Asus /
MSI
Price: Around £350
How we laughed when we heard about the 'new' class of computers that have suddenly emerged in recent months.
In case you've been living with the Amish, these so-called netbooks are touted as low-cost, ultra-mobile devices that can provide true always-on computing. What a brilliant idea! Why, we hear you cry, didn't they think of it sooner?
Well they did. Let us declare a historical interest here; we were a huge fan of the Psion Netbook from which it seems that these new sub-notebooks took their name. This device was doing everything that these new kids on the mobile computing block are doing now and, with its touchscreen keyboard and amazing battery life, arguably a whole lot more. This device was so far ahead of its time it still amazes us. (Enough about the good old days – Ed).
But good technology, engineering excellence and innovation are no guarantee of success in today's computing industry and Psion - Potter's Scientific Instruments or Nothing - is no longer making mass-market portable computers. Our Psion was stolen from an airport over nine years ago, but sitting here in a secret pub location just around the corner from INQ Towers, typing this review on an MSI Wind, it is obvious that there is nothing new under the sun.
But while ultra-portable computers are nothing new, the ultraportable for less than £350 is a very welcome innovation. Ultra-portable used to mean ultra-expensive; think Tosh Portege or IBM/Lenovo X Series and expect to get no change out of £2,000.
Then came the revolution. Far be it for us to upset the emperor over the cut of his new clothes, but we were not impressed with the eeePC 700 that started all this fuss. The device has a keyboard that only those users who have cut off all their fingers with a chainsaw and replaced them with knitting needles could use effectively. And the battery life was rubbish. But it was cheap as chips, hit the zeitgeist perfectly and sold like hot cakes.
Since this device smashed into the market there have been a raft of new models that have, without exception, been getting bigger and bigger - both in terms of form factor and price. And they have at the same time being getting more and more useful.
In this review we have looked for the best of the bunch of Intel Atom-based netbooks with usable keyboards - we're looking for a computer that we can really use on a day-to-day basis, rather than a "notebook companion". In our humble opinion the only runners and riders currently in the market - excluding the super-expensive traditional ultraportables from Lenovo, Tosh, Sony et al - are the MSI Wind and the eeePC 1000.
In making this choice we dismissed the eeePC 900 and 901 because of their small keyboards. The same deficiency meant that we could not put the Acer Aspire One through to the next round. We almost decided to put in the HP MiniNote, which has a superb keyboard and a raft of features for around about the same selling prices. But we finally rejected this almost-great machine because of its relatively slow Via processor - and the fact that many users advise wearing a pair of asbestos trousers because of the surprising amount of heat chucked out by its CPU.
So what we have for this subjective head-to-head is a Win XP-based MSI Wind and a Linux-based eeePC 1000, both sporting 1GB of RAM. The different platforms mean that we could not a perform a true 'apples with apples' comparison, though the fact that both machines are essentially the same in terms of memory and CPU means that we expect little difference in real-world performance.
And let us not forget that these devices are not designed to be speed demons... they are designed primarily for email, web browsing and office functionality. Those looking for 3D gaming, fast graphics performance or protein-folding number crunching should look away now... there's nothing to see here.
It is important to keep in mind that these devices are not traditional £2,000 ultraportables. No titanium or magnesium alloy was inconvenienced in their production. But, although they are made of plastic, we were surprised by the quality of their builds. Both machines feel surprisingly well made and solid. There is little flex in the screens and the hinges in both devices are reassuringly solid. The screens themselves in both devices were excellent; bright and clear. In the case of the Asus we were very surprised by the weight (around 1.5kg) which may put off some potential buyers, but part of this can be attributed to its six-cell battery. The Wind tips the scales at just over a kilo.
We are not going to bore readers by going into oodles of detail over the loaded applications or the operating systems. Suffice to say the Linux-based Asus definitely won this round with its comprehensive range of office, web, learning and games applications. In contrast the trial copy of Office on our Wind seemed a little mean, but all of the Open Source applications are easily downloadable.
The familiarity of the Wind’s Windows XP OS, and wide range of applications will appeal to many users. Although the eeePC 1000’s Linux platform was largely intuitive to use and the supplied documentation helpful, it is inevitable that some options will prove annoying for dyed-in-the-wool Windows fans. For example we initially had issues getting a wireless connection running. The device was not being assigned a dynamic IP, and the resultant message: “No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.run-parts --verbose /etc/network/if-up.d” could have been more user friendly as these devices are aimed at mainstream users.
One of the main selling points of these particular netbooks is the usability of their 92 per cent full-sized keyboards, which means they can be viewed as and used as 'proper' laptops. The MSI Wind and the eeePC 1000 have identically-sized keyboards that are far and away the best in their class - far more usable than the smaller, cramped offerings on other devices such as the Acer Aspire One, the 700 or 900 series eeePCs.
However there was an annoying niggle in that the Wind's comma and full stop keys are cut down to allow for a bigger shift key. This will drive many touch typists insane as it means there is a group of very close-knit keys crammed into the bottom right-hand corner which can easily lead to typos - a source of great annoyance to us was the frequency with which we hit the forward slash key instead of a comma or at the same time as the full stop. Perhaps more annoying is the ease with which a user can hit the up arrow key at the same time as the enter key, so taking the cursor up a line and leading to some very interesting and random typing effects.
The eeePC 1000 keyboard has full sized comma and full stop keys - good news for anyone who wants to include punctuation in their copy. However, the trade-off for the keyboard is that the shift key is half the size - bad news if you want capital letters. The Control key is also severely cut down to half the normal key size. These considerations are entirely subjective - some users will find either or both of these designs annoying but equally some will simply not notice at all. The only suggestion we can make is that you try before you buy.
Battery life is a key factor in ultraportable computers and an area where there is clear blue water between our two test machines. The eeePC is designed to give up to seven and a half hours of battery life with its six cell battery. In our real world tests we got around five hours of usage with WiFi switched on. The MSI was due to ship with a similar battery to the Asus but, due to production issues, the UK devices only have a three-cell unit.
While this means that the Wind is much lighter and easier to lug around it also means that in our tests the battery delivers only around two and a half hours of use with WiFi on all the time.
In Short
It is fair to say that both these machines are excellent, particularly at this
price point. But the Asus has the edge for most users. It is true that the lower
list price of the Wind should mean that a purchaser could invest in a bigger
battery when it comes out. However, at the time of going to press the hard drive
versions of both the eeePC 1000 and the Wind were selling for round about the
same price of about £350.
So in our opinion it really makes more sense to get the Asus, unless the reduced weight of the Wind is a major selling point and the reduced battery life is unimportant. There are also a few other points that add up in favour of the Asus: it has 802.11.n WiFi while the Wind only has 802.11g.
The eeePC also has a better touchpad that recognises multi-touch inputs. Another niggle with the Wind was that the SD card slot only allows the card to go half way in, so you need to remember to pop the card out each time you pack up. On the Asus the card disappears neatly inside the case.
You pays your money and you takes your choice, but we would recommend the Asus by a whisker.
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Comments
Overweight
Well, the Wind isn't exactly 1kilo - it's 1.25k with the 3cell battery.And the Asus is "only" 1.45 to be truthfully.
So yes the Wind is lighter - but only because of the smaller battery. And a smaller battery means you can let the power brick at home - which easily saves you 200g does it?
But at the end I agree 1.45kg is quite a lot and for their next generation netbooks both should focus on making them lighter.
Cheers
M.
Advent anyone?
"However, at the time of going to press the hard drive versions of both the eeePC 1000 and the Wind were selling for round about the same price of about £350"Buying one of the much cheaper MSI Wind clones (Advent or Medion) would seem to make more sense and also makes the 3-cell battery seem more reasonable.
Not sure why this isn't even mentioned ?
Advent 4211 = MSI Wind
Why not a head to head with the Advent 4211 instead of the real MSI Wind same laptop £50-70 cheaper. Where does that put the Asus then?I know the winner!
Hi,As MSI Forum administrator, I must say.
The wind is simply better :-)
Bas.
Wind has a big following
Well although the EEE PC has been in the market for longer the Wind has a bigger following in the short time it has been with us. I have a MSI Wind and love it. I took out the Windblows OS and replaced it with linux (oh btw download unetbooting it makes the linux install a breeze .... that 3 hours prior to finding this tool will be lost for ever :(Anyway for a great site check wiki.msiwind.net it gives the whole lowdown on this beautiful device.
9-cell hack here I come ;)
To each her own
Advent and Medion weren't available to me when I bought my Wind (I live in Texas) and I'm not sure where I would get one now if I needed to. I whined and pulled strings like a distraught four-year-old screaming for candy to get the Wind a couple months ago, and I'm actually really happy I did.Funny, isn't it, that the things you like about the Eee and don't like about the Wind are the things I like about the Wind and don't like about the Eee. I like the big shift key and don't mind the smaller punc keys. The three cell battery is enough for me and the weight does matter. I have to use Windows in order to be semi-compatible with my work laptop, and I was overjoyed to make MS Office and its cronies walk the plank and download all open source apps.
MSI customer service was kind and friendly to me, too, and I've heard about problems with the customer service with Asus, which makes me feel like I dodged a bullet.
Advent vs MSI Wind
Also dont forget the MSI Wind has the edge over the Advent in a few other areas too:MSI = 2year global warranty
Advent = 1year local
MSI = Carry Bag
Advent = nout
MSI = 120Gb HDD now
Advent = 80gb
So i would say the MSI is prob just worth the extra £50 ish
Break Wind
My wind lasted about 3 weeks before giving up the ghost :( (no power up, just light in power LED)I hope Asus build quality is better, if so a switch might be in order ;)
Also the newer Winds have a Sentelic touchpad(instead of Synaptics which they originally shipped with) which has also gotten a lot of flak for being 'subpar'.
MSI Wind pwns ASUS in Comex 2008
Well, if the reviews of Inquirer is as such, I think the real market results should show which netbook is really the preferred choice. Wind netbook is a sold out in the 4 days COMEX, with 2 of the color versions sold out on the 2nd day. Though many booths offer ASUS eeePC U1000 but was... no pun intended.In Digital Life SG reviews to let 6 people from all age group and walks of life to choose the netbooks of their choice (Total of 8 netbooks, including ASUS, Acer, HP etc), 3 choose Wind, 1 choose ASUS, 1 choose HP, 1 choose Acer. The results are obvious once again.
Of course that ASUS is the first to start the netbook hype but MSI takes the crown in the eyes of many.
As the review already mentioned, apart from the OS, the rest are 90% similar. Though N wifi adpater is the latest gadget add-on for ASUS, but truely, a G wifi adapter is good enough. Don't see the jingles and bells here.
On the other hand, now the Wind comes with a 160GB HDD so where does it leave the eeePC 1000 now? Still struggling with the same small capacity HDD? The real need is not only ultraportability, but also convenience on the move with the essentials. You do not want to bring around another 2.5" HDD around with you, do you? The answer is definately obvious once and again.
6 cells battery on the Wind last me 5hrs 42mins, just 18mins shy from 6 hours. Low heat and low fan noise are also the plus points on the Wind.
Anticipating the 9 cells battery if it's official by MSI.
My 2 cents here.
Proud owner of MSI Wind with Love Charity Edition.
Acer Aspire One keyboard
The Acer Aspire One (AA1) was discounted because its keyboard was too small? That's just nuts! I've seen and tried all three - the 1000H, Wind and AA1 and the Aspire One has the best tactile feel keyboard of the lot with a respectable keyboard size. Others who have tried the various brands have commented that the AA1's keyboard was best for typing.Creepy crap
Both devices are cheap and the plastics is just average.Yes you could have a better machine in terms of build quality and the materials quality. I would like to wait for LED backlit screens and ultra low profile keyboards - like Mac's.
I don't care if I would have to use my 2,5 kg laptop for 6 months longer, just to get a premium quality machine.